Comments on: Sexism and the City http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/ Wear What You Want Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:30:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: jennine http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-35643 jennine Thu, 27 May 2010 19:03:02 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-35643 You know, I don't think SATC goes far enough. I love the fact it's about women who own their sexuality, but they're perfectly dressed, wildly successful, intelligent and still they fit into what cultural norms..who's mom doesn't work? what woman doesn't have her own career... It's shocking because there isn't a lot out there, but not because they are addressing anything that hasn't already become acceptable. Personally, I'd like to see a show based on the book 'Wetlands' by Charlotte la Roche. The character in the book really challenged our notions of femininity and sexuality. I had to shut the book a couple of times... it was like watching Family Guy for the first time. Brilliant. You know, I don’t think SATC goes far enough. I love the fact it’s about women who own their sexuality, but they’re perfectly dressed, wildly successful, intelligent and still they fit into what cultural norms..who’s mom doesn’t work? what woman doesn’t have her own career… It’s shocking because there isn’t a lot out there, but not because they are addressing anything that hasn’t already become acceptable.

Personally, I’d like to see a show based on the book ‘Wetlands’ by Charlotte la Roche. The character in the book really challenged our notions of femininity and sexuality. I had to shut the book a couple of times… it was like watching Family Guy for the first time. Brilliant.

]]> By: Fasshonaburu http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-35636 Fasshonaburu Thu, 27 May 2010 14:51:43 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-35636 OMG, I especially hate how women have to be pretty but men don't! And yeah, the movie was kinda forced and cheesy, but I really loved that one scene with Miranda and Charlotte. OMG, I especially hate how women have to be pretty but men don’t!

And yeah, the movie was kinda forced and cheesy, but I really loved that one scene with Miranda and Charlotte.

]]> By: WendyB http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-35633 WendyB Thu, 27 May 2010 13:45:28 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-35633 "If it was instead a movie for guys about self-absorbed men who only care about sex and treating women like objects and gadgets it would get the same amount of criticism. " -- you mean like any of hundreds of movies from Porky's to The Hangover? You sound make it sound like that kind of movie is a rarity when it's very common indeed. “If it was instead a movie for guys about self-absorbed men who only care about sex and treating women like objects and gadgets it would get the same amount of criticism. ” — you mean like any of hundreds of movies from Porky’s to The Hangover? You sound make it sound like that kind of movie is a rarity when it’s very common indeed.

]]> By: JY http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-35629 JY Thu, 27 May 2010 06:13:54 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-35629 A misguided defense. If it was instead a movie for guys about self-absorbed men who only care about sex and treating women like objects and gadgets it would get the same amount of criticism. The phrase of "set back" is just a phrase, I think you're taking it way too literally. Nobody is saying SATC by itself set women or feminism back it's just a way of saying how horrid and awful that SATC is so admired by women. As for Sarah Jessica Parker I think the reason so many people call her ugly is because all these fashion magazines and celebrity news shows go out of there way raving about how gorgeous she is when she's not, she's about average. So it's really a backlash. A misguided defense. If it was instead a movie for guys about self-absorbed men who only care about sex and treating women like objects and gadgets it would get the same amount of criticism.

The phrase of “set back” is just a phrase, I think you’re taking it way too literally. Nobody is saying SATC by itself set women or feminism back it’s just a way of saying how horrid and awful that SATC is so admired by women.

As for Sarah Jessica Parker I think the reason so many people call her ugly is because all these fashion magazines and celebrity news shows go out of there way raving about how gorgeous she is when she’s not, she’s about average. So it’s really a backlash.

]]> By: diya http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-35628 diya Thu, 27 May 2010 05:35:14 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-35628 Wendy- YOU ARE MY HERO(INE). That is all. ON a slightly different note, I'm always pissed that some people view even a gal dressing up/shaving her legs as anti-feminist... how does that work? Being feminine does NOT mean being anti-feminist. Wendy-

YOU ARE MY HERO(INE). That is all. ON a slightly different note, I’m always pissed that some people view even a gal dressing up/shaving her legs as anti-feminist… how does that work? Being feminine does NOT mean being anti-feminist.

]]> By: Sabbah Haji http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-32606 Sabbah Haji Wed, 10 Feb 2010 06:00:09 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-32606 Nice! And I don't even like SATC, but not for the above reasons. I am blameless! Well writ. :) Nice! And I don’t even like SATC, but not for the above reasons. I am blameless! Well writ. :)

]]> By: WendyB http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-32492 WendyB Sun, 07 Feb 2010 00:36:52 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-32492 Fair enough, to each her own! Fair enough, to each her own!

]]> By: Laura http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-32491 Laura Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:53:16 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-32491 WendyB-- I didn't mean that they had to be good role models. It seems to me like they're supposed to be role models, though. The Office and The Simpsons are quite obviously fiction and satire, but According to Jim seems to say, "this is how every American lives/should live, and if you don't, people will laugh at you. Even though we're supposed to be funny, this is how real men should be. This is how real women should be." And Sex and the City seems to me to say, "we're real 21st century women, and if we do something that's not okay, it'll be obvious by the end of the show and written in Samantha's journal. Every woman should be so lucky to be like us." And too many people are easily impressed by TV. Sorry I'm bad at explaining what I mean, I guess I just have issues with that show. :) Also, I don't mean to single this show out--like I said, there are certain programs that just rub me the wrong way. WendyB–

I didn’t mean that they had to be good role models. It seems to me like they’re supposed to be role models, though. The Office and The Simpsons are quite obviously fiction and satire, but According to Jim seems to say, “this is how every American lives/should live, and if you don’t, people will laugh at you. Even though we’re supposed to be funny, this is how real men should be. This is how real women should be.”
And Sex and the City seems to me to say, “we’re real 21st century women, and if we do something that’s not okay, it’ll be obvious by the end of the show and written in Samantha’s journal. Every woman should be so lucky to be like us.”
And too many people are easily impressed by TV.
Sorry I’m bad at explaining what I mean, I guess I just have issues with that show. :)
Also, I don’t mean to single this show out–like I said, there are certain programs that just rub me the wrong way.

]]> By: WendyB http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-32490 WendyB Sat, 06 Feb 2010 23:37:21 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-32490 Laura, I agree that the characters were not necessarily good role models. But why did they have to be role models at all? People recognize that Homer Simpson, Jim Belushi and the lunatics of "The Office" aren't role models. Admittedly, there will always be people (often teenagers and guys who watch Jackass) who can't distinguish between TV and their own lives and will follow the bad example that they see in a show. But we can't stamp every single work of fiction -- whether TV, movies or books -- with a warning that says, "Don't try any unpleasant personalities at home." Laura, I agree that the characters were not necessarily good role models. But why did they have to be role models at all? People recognize that Homer Simpson, Jim Belushi and the lunatics of “The Office” aren’t role models. Admittedly, there will always be people (often teenagers and guys who watch Jackass) who can’t distinguish between TV and their own lives and will follow the bad example that they see in a show. But we can’t stamp every single work of fiction — whether TV, movies or books — with a warning that says, “Don’t try any unpleasant personalities at home.”

]]> By: Laura http://wendybrandes.com/blog/2008/06/sexism-and-city/comment-page-2/#comment-32488 Laura Sat, 06 Feb 2010 22:33:56 +0000 http://wendybrandes.com/blog/?p=617#comment-32488 Okay, I just wanna say, I do agree with most of your post. I hate, hate, hate According to Jim for those very reasons (and the fact that it's not funny AT ALL). I agree with you about Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen (I hated Knocked up more than anything). But, I do think the women on Sex and the City do tend to be...self-absorbed and shallow. I remember seeing one episode where they were talking about how many abortions they'd gotten like they were talking about how many times they had gone to the dentist, completely casually. 'How many have you had?' '5.' 'I've only had one!' I am in no way against abortions, but...seriously. Okay, maybe this wasn't what you were talking about, but I just wanted to say that I do think they're kind of self-absorbed. Don't get me wrong: it's not because they're not mothers or doting or need a guy. It's because of the way they seem to treat people. I haven't seen too many episodes though, so I could be wrong, I'm just writing based on what I've seen. Okay, that's my two cents, thanks for reading my ramblings. Okay, I just wanna say, I do agree with most of your post. I hate, hate, hate According to Jim for those very reasons (and the fact that it’s not funny AT ALL). I agree with you about Judd Apatow and Seth Rogen (I hated Knocked up more than anything).

But, I do think the women on Sex and the City do tend to be…self-absorbed and shallow. I remember seeing one episode where they were talking about how many abortions they’d gotten like they were talking about how many times they had gone to the dentist, completely casually.
‘How many have you had?’
’5.’
‘I’ve only had one!’

I am in no way against abortions, but…seriously.

Okay, maybe this wasn’t what you were talking about, but I just wanted to say that I do think they’re kind of self-absorbed. Don’t get me wrong: it’s not because they’re not mothers or doting or need a guy. It’s because of the way they seem to treat people. I haven’t seen too many episodes though, so I could be wrong, I’m just writing based on what I’ve seen. Okay, that’s my two cents, thanks for reading my ramblings.

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